Come to Augsburg, then become a regular at Neruda.

Super strong community vibe. Welcoming. I tell all my friends to go there if they want to meet people, you can talk to anyone

Bonus: it’s a musicians bar. Live music every day. Locals come and jam. You never know what you’re gonna get.

Professionals in town? They drop in to Neruda.

Bar sing sing alongs we all know the words to? We got that too

Bought the M5 from the welt. If I were you i probably stay and use the experience to get a higher income job later on. Munich is nice when you get good wages. It gets old real quick when the wages sucks. You are in the most expensive city in Germany. I was there for about 2 years. My biggest irk was the food diversity. So boring lol and the Asian foods are laughable.

Do you have official offers in either country? You should go where you have job offers and where the job offers are better. As a grad, you’re going to have very few options and you’re not going to be making a whole lot of money.

If you’re getting a job at THAT famous Bayern Motor Werke, then know that they are exceptionally Bavarian and your day-to-day work life will be in German. Which can accelerate your German learning.

I’ve somehow managed to make a few friends here even without being fluent in german and having never joined a Verein.

As others have said, you can always move back later and US employers will be impressed with your resume. If I were you, I would do it - the chance to do Europe in your 20s?? Heck yes.

Stay in Germany , learn German. Thank me later.

There is a distinction in German(y) between Freund and Bekannter (aquaintance). In different parts of the US it is quite easy to meet people and call them friends immediately. Not so in D. Germans can be quite social (gemütlich), but less quickly. However if you make friends they more easily can be friends for life, that’s my take. Hang out, make a language effort, be gemütlich, friends will come.

International work experience is always going to add to your value as a worker. I’d try and go back after a few years of work experience or if securing a job won’t work out.

That would be amazing on your resume to work as a BMW engineer. Do a year and see how you feel after that.

Having worked for a German company, I would recommend staying. There are drawbacks, but since you are starting your career it is a good move.

Learning German … for that you indeed have to be at least an engineer!

I 'm suprised, because young people and the ones who studied do speak English. But okay.

How easy is German? Lesson one, translate the word “the”. That is easy in English but can be in German … der, des, dem, den, die, das. Depending … see the German gramar. Germany, German people too do not take many new modern English words in their language. Take a motorbike, the carburator. In Dutch language (spoken in the Netherlands and part of Belgium, it is carburateur. In German they invent their own word, here it is called Vergaser. Dutch, the television is de tv, in German der Fernseher (Far looker). But, from own experiences, just learn some of the language and the mistakes you make will be forgiven, because you have the sympathy that you invested time and energy to learn at least some basic. So … good luck.

I would stay. Quality of life in the US sucks. I was a manufacturing engineer, and the lifestyle and pay were not worth it. I was an exchange student to Germany after high school and ended up living there for 5 years, ending a decade ago. I’d go back in an instant. Learn German regardless of how long you stay. Once you find a circle of friends you will have the kind of friendships you are looking for. Since you have until now not intended to stay in Germany, the locals probably won’t get too involved with you. If you become more permanent, so will your relationships.

dude u earn less because u are living in a social state. why is this so hard to get for us americans… really your are getting annoying

I vote stay. US is only getting crazier and worse than ever. Just left the US permanently myself about 2 weeks ago now

I’ve spent some time D- Land. It was hard making friends, however my German improved and I was able to converse. It took time but I managed to meet wonderful people. So many years later I still have contacts there and I see them as a second family. I’ll suggest you give it a try for your career. Like others mentioned, you can always return to the States.

Several perspectives to offer from another American living in Europe:

1. Always at least TRY the extreme thing! If you don’t like it, you can always “relax” back into the “normal”/mainstream thing.
2. You’re young, with no responsibilities. Enjoy that while it lasts! Soon enough you could have restraints on you.
3. Understand that Europe is very tribal. The societies are all local and heavily emphasize conformity (to a much greater extent than the US, anyway). So, yeah, you’ll need to proactively seek-out the more “fringe” folks who could be interested in friendship with a foreigner. But there are expat communities everywhere, so you’ll be fine. It could just take a while. Get an active, outdoor hobby (tennis, sailing, motorcycling … anything), and join a local group. You can find online forums for any interest and locale. Basically, just start doing stuff that you like to do, then check-out who else is out there doing it also! Good luck to you!