Question
“How do I get a full remote job, tell my employer exactly what all my plans are, and never get the offer rescinded and be forced to RTO?”
Answer
YOU DON’T! Read the VPN wiki, buy a travel router, tell no one your plans, and just GO!
The reason why 99% of employers will say no is tax and legal liabilities. Use your brain!
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Yes, lie and break your employment contract. What could go wrong?
Stunningly wrong.
I work in a field where moving around is a benefit that adds credibility.
Clearly you u/JackieFinance did not read the part of the VPN wiki that says “you will get caught.”
It seems you realize that being where you are not supposed to be opens your employer to tax and other legal liabilities. Add contractual issues. What you fail to recognize is that the company will throw you under the bus (as they should) when you get caught to protect themselves. You’ll be fired and they will do everything in their power to transfer all civil and criminal liability to you.
How can anyone trust someone like you?
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But aren’t there places online to find remote work? I’m looking for one currently, doesn’t have to be fancy but if anyone knows a good place lemme know.
The issue is, to use an old baseball metaphor, is that different people have different foul lines.
A lot of DNs fly under the radar, but some will never do that because it would be based on “lies” to the company. The counterpoint is the companies and bosses lie to workers all the time, so even stevens.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for remote work (my company ONLY supports it), but this general blanket statement is just wrong.
Legal liabilities are insanely important, and a lot of it comes from “99%” of what people don’t understand or have never thought about.
All I can recommend is that you don’t lie, or you’ll be the first scapegoat when shit hits the fan.
Just never offer more than absolutely required.
I asked HR during my onboarding process what their thoughts were on travel, just in general like working internationally during “extended vacations” to make sure there were no tax issues, just hypothetically. She said there was no problem there.
Just told my manager last week I was going to Buenos Aires and he couldn’t have been more exited for me.
There are good companies with good people out there.
Take all this “be super secretive to your employer” advice with a grain of salt. If you feel that they will give you their full backing and support, tell them!
Also, sometimes the “Asking” is giving them an opportunity to say know, while just stating it they might not even think about it as being something that they might need to approve.
The reality is if you’re too dumb to read you are too dumb to nomad.
Few understand this.
sry can sum1 tell me wat does this msg say
Work for yourself. That’s how I do it.
Though to be fair DNs can very legally work in a lot of places. My kid is one, working within the US, per her employer’s rules. She’s still a dn, just moving around within one large country.
This can actually be more difficult than the global variant.
States are stricter on the cross border employment requirements than countries are.
Keep in mind that lying to your employer can open you up to legal repercussions. And it can also open your employer to same.
VPNs, however implemented, can be detected, and the average person will not maintain a secure set up in the long term. Your OPSEC needs to be perfect all the time, your employer only needs you to slip up once.
By all means “just go” but accept it carry’s a significant amount of personal risk, including financial.
Keep in mind that lying to your employer can open you up to legal repercussions. And it can also open your employer to same.
Yeah, the lying is definitely not something that should be done when your company is involved with handling protected information of any kind (health records, government stuff, likely some financials as well).
Since that can be more properly illegal, as opposed to just against company policy.
Or find a job that doesn’t care?
Even if they never found out, that just doesn’t sit right with me. I simply don’t like to make a habit of lying in any area of my life, especially to someone kind enough to give me a job. It’s about honor and integrity, which is a lost art, sadly.
It was a long wait, but I finally found a job that is fine with me traveling. And I’m glad I can shrug off any paranoia. It was definitely worth it.
Good day DN!
Offering $1,000 to anybody who can help me land a fully remote position in customer service, data entry, scheduler, etc. Have over 6 years experience in the service industry and a year of remote customer service work!
You totally can get remote jobs, startups are best
Nobody likes the real answer: learn to code. When your output is the entire business, you have a lot of leverage with an employer.