Lots of companies claiming they can help tech workers (digital nomads) from the UK move to Portugal and pay 0% tax on income. Surely this can’t be true?

I have attached some screen caps to evidence these claims.

It just all seems a little too good to be true, and with the window of opportunity closing I’m keen to learn more.

Anyone have experience with this?

Here is one such example:

"This is possible, in part, due to Portugal’s 71 double taxation treaties. According to the regime, as long as the source country of your income has the power to tax your income (regardless of whether or not they actually apply the tax), Portugal will not tax your foreign-sourced income.

The list of income sources that will not be taxed under this set-up includes foreign-source self-employment, royalties, eligible occupations,  dividends, capital gains, and investment or rental income."

Many thanks.

  • lops21@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Not true, self-employment/salary is considered a local source, you will be taxed at 20% + social security if you have the NHR. There’s other sources that are 0%, such as royalties and dividends.

  • Quick-Original4773@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Portugal’s Non-Habitual Resident (NHR) program does offer favorable tax conditions for certain types of foreign income, including from self-employment or a salary from a UK company, under specific conditions. It’s true that Portugal has double taxation treaties that can make this possible. And on a side note, for digital nomads considering a move, using services like Rebookify for hotel stays can be a cost-effective way to explore different areas before settling down

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      1 year ago

      Easy - Once you’re living there they’d just ask in any random audit. Are you gonna make up fake bank statements, fake invoices and fake everything during an investigation in a foreign country?

    • thekwoka@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      There’s certainly indicators.

      Like, for example, you being on a virtual work visa that requires showing proof of work, but then you try to say you made no money.

      So, in SOME way, you’re doing something that is against the rules.

  • thekwoka@alien.topB
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    This is possible, in part, due to Portugal’s 71 double taxation treaties. According to the regime, as long as the source country of your income has the power to tax your income (regardless of whether or not they actually apply the tax), Portugal will not tax your foreign-sourced income

    This is false. Just about all of it.

    That isn’t how these double taxation treaties work.

    What it actually means is that if multiple countries can assess you for taxes, they both do at whatever the rate is and they get a dollar amount.

    Then the most direct claim against your taxes (typically the one of the country you are physically present in when working) takes their tax.

    then the second/others look at their number, and subtract the taxes you already pad to the first country. And now they take their tax if the number is still positive.

    So, no, it has nothing to do with just “a country CAN tax your income”, but SPECIFICALLY how much taxes they take.

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    1 year ago

    foreign-sourced income

    you don’t understand what this means. if you are living in portugal, working from your laptop, that is locally sourced income. this does not refer to where the money comes from. realistic sources of foreign income is dividends/rental property. any kind of labour is not going to count

    • thekwoka@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      you don’t understand what this means. if you are living in portugal, working from your laptop, that is locally sourced income.

      To be fair. different countries use this claim differently.

      But yes, it generally would be based on (with work from your laptop) where you were physically present when you did the work. That’s the source.

    • -SuperSelf@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Why is rent / dividends from another country foreign sourced income, but receiving payments from foreign companies wouldnt be? 🤔

      • slardor@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Because it matters where the work is performed. In the case of rent or dividends, it’s passive income so it’s considered to be originating from the other country.